"...we might as well do it now – pull off the Band-Aid, eat our peas."The words are English and I can understand them just fine, but the some of the sentences have left me confused. Don't mistake this for snooty English criticism of how the Yanks use the language. They can use it any way they want or not at all as far as I'm concerned. If they want fanny to mean arse and bum to mean tramp and all those other little difference that's more than fine by me as I need only learn a little vocabulary rather than a whole language, and like lots of others I watch enough American TV that I'm pretty confident in my ability to get by. But this time, and admittedly it's not unprecedented when it comes to American presidents, I just don't know what the fuck he means.
"They're in one week and they're out one week... You need to be here. I've been here. I've been doing Afghanistan and bin Laden and the Greek crisis. You stay here. Let's get it done."
Friday, 15 July 2011
What the hell is Obama talking about here?
Seriously, can someone who speaks American make sense of these remarks on the subject of America's worrying debt level and the possibility of the country losing it's top credit rating?
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What the hell is Obama talking about here?
2011-07-15T16:29:00+10:00
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smokervoter · 714 weeks ago
Truth be told, Obama isn't nearly as articulate as he's given credit for. Half the time I don't understand him either. I think it's because he quit smoking. When he smoked his thought process was much steadier and he spoke rather fluently. I know of what I speak here. I once quit for about a month and found that I couldn't put two sentences together. Needless to say, I went back to smoking and have lived happily ever after. And I hope that fact is in evidence here as I capitalize all of my "I's", spell correctly even in the absence of a spellchecker, and hopefully answered your question clearly and concisely.
I like your blog. I came upon it via Leg-irons blogroll.
Angry_Exile 90p · 714 weeks ago
Thanks for the comment about the blog. Pop along anytime you feel like reading potty mouthed rantings of some deranged English guy hanging upside down off the world's arse and surrounded by deadly spiders :D
smokervoter · 714 weeks ago
smokervoter · 714 weeks ago
smokervoter · 714 weeks ago
Let me preface this by saying that from some of the things I've read about the situation, it is shredding the mental picture I have of the land from Down Under. I much prefer my notion of Crocodile Dundee and the 'No Rules Just Right' slogan of our Outback Steakhouse' chains here to some of the comments I read on that John Humphries opinion piece. There were over 400 comments! I realize that articles like that really bring out the keyboard toughies, but, jeez, some of them were really off the wall. Loads of goody-goods. Please say it ain't so.
If you were to light up in public there, would someone come up to you and order you to put it out?
Angry_Exile 90p · 714 weeks ago
As for smoking, you probably know already from reading Leg-iron's and Pat Nurse's blogs that smoking is now banned in all public buildings, public transport, bars, clubs, pubs, restaurants, cafés, etc. Didn't used to be everywhere but they were going that way a state/territory at a time when I got here and the Northern Territory were the last to fall into line about 2 years ago. There are also some places where you can't smoke outdoors. For example, in the Melbourne metro area I know of three beaches and one outdoor shopping precinct - and there may be more for all I know - that have been designated non smoking by their respective local councils. You might well be told to put it out and be fined if caught smoking there, though there's the practical matter of enforcement - in the case of one of the beaches they can't fucking stop IV drug use and have to sieve the sand for syringes daily on summer mornings and weekly at this time of year, and if they can't stop people shooting up I can't see how they expect to stop smokers lighting up. Still, the anti-smoking wowsers are a vocal lot and currently they have the ear of the politicians, hence $16 a pack (our dollar or yours, about the same at the moment), no displays allowed - in some places not even allowed in a fucking tobacconist's - and this current drive towards mandatory plain packets. The illegal tobacco trade must be thinking all their Christmases must be coming at once.
That's the bad news. The good is that a lot of this shit is confined to the major urban areas. We're nearly the size of the lower 48 US states and our whole population is smaller than that of Texas on it's own, and that means there's a hell of a lot of rural Australia with towns from a few thousand people all the way down to a few dozen. Some of the really small places may be a couple of hundred miles from the police station and two or three times that to the state capital. In such places discreet smoking may happen if everyone knows everyone else and they're pretty sure the local cop's not likely to show up for a day or two - I've certainly seen smoking in an outback pub post-ban. Also some parts of the country are good for growing tobacco plants, and in fact it used to be a cash crop so there are probably a few tobacco plants growing wild here and there. I reckon the potential for home growth and the difficulty in policing such a huge and relatively unpopulated country mean that even if they went nuts and made it illegal - and ate the $10bn loss in tax revenue that'd mean - there'd still be smoking going on. As it happens I think the neo-puritans are starting to meet resistance as even my fellow ex- and non-smokers are beginning to think the smokers are getting a raw deal and to notice that the nannying is spreading beyond just smokers. Bottom line is that I'd say it's probably better than the UK for nannying in general, worse in some respects wrt smokers but better in others, but it's not as good as it was and overall the two nations are only 5-10 years apart. Wouldn't like to make firm predictions about which is likely to turn back first but I have hopes for Oz. Hard to compare to the US as I haven't been there for a fair while.
On a slight tangent and going back to the point about the large amount of empty land here, one of the nice things if you like roughing it a bit is that a day or two's drive can get you so far away from civilisation that all its rules and petty regulation feel a million miles away. When the bastards are getting to be too much there's no better place that I've been for getting away from them for a bit. It's chock full of things that want you dead, of course, but wonderfully peaceful for all that.
smokervoter · 714 weeks ago
They're both horrid 'All Rules - Just Right' (err, Left) cities. Likewise, get out and away from them and you get back to the free-wheeling California of popular folklore. Rule of thumb for smoking - Wikipedia the voting records of the place - heavily Democrat (read: Labour) - expect pricey tickets, and for every 'crime' under the sun.
I'm not sure whats gotten into people over the past twenty years. Who really wants to be told NO all the time?
Angry_Exile 90p · 714 weeks ago
As for comparison with California, hard for me to say as I've spent little time there and other than TV and news I don't know it well. From what I see and what you say you might find parts of Oz, especially our eastern states, a bit like California. Certainly there are some quite hefty fines for some quite trivial and victimless offences, and it doesn't seem to matter whether the Liberals (who aren't liberal in either sense, the contemporary US meaning or the classical laissez faire - more akin to the Republicans except they're generally monarchists) are in charge or Labor (who for some reason are the only people who spell the word without a 'u'). Compulsory bicycle helmets are a good example - the fine for not wearing one here in VIC is about 150 bucks. Yep, you read that right - 150 fucking dollars for choosing to accept an increased risk to your own safety which affects absolutely nobody else. I've no idea which party was running Victoria when it was brought in but neither seem interested in doing away with it and treating cyclists like adults. As in many countries, certainly including Britain but from an outsiders point of view probably the US as well, there's often a huge overlap of policy and attitude with the main parties and no difference at all on the kind of things that I care about as a libertarian. When you want the government to stop telling you what to do all the time why the fuck would you care who it is that's doing the telling?
smokervoter · 714 weeks ago
Shortly thereafter came the start of tobacco prohibition. That was the beginning of the end of California the free.
At this point in time I can still pedal my bicycle without a helmet. But...the Mayor of Los Angeles was recently involved in a bicycle accident and gave a press conference lamenting the fact that bicycle helmets weren't mandatory. He also had bicyclist/major asshole Lance Armstrong over from the state of Texas at the news conference to push for a doubling of our state tobacco tax to fund more cancer research.
He went so far as to call it (cancer research) a potential growth industry that would help solve California's current financial woes.
Green jobs and more ad nauseam tobacco research - the nanny economy of the future.
I think I see mandatory life vests while surfing on the horizon, just beyond that outside set of waves.
Angry_Exile 90p · 714 weeks ago