NORWEGIAN mass killer Anders Behring Breivik claims he is part of a network of up to 80 ''solo martyr cells'' of people wanting to overthrow Western governments that tolerate Islam.Firstly I'm willing to bet that this boast of dozens more just like him is a complete fantasy, so-called links to the English Defence League notwithstanding. They may share some common opinions, though I very much doubt that shooting unarmed innocents because they don't share your politics is one of them. So this network of solo martyr cells is probably at best some people he's met who he's convinced himself will do something similar once he'd got the ball rolling, and in all likelihood those people are all sitting aghast at the thought that they'd once been in a room with someone who'd become a mass murderer. In short these cells almost certainly don't exist outside of Breivik's own head, though you can expect that many police forces will be looking very hard to be sure and many politicians will be looking at this as an opportunity for a bit of a crackdown on the EDL and others who share any of Breivik's opinions. The worry there is that in 1,500 pages of writing, some of which has apparently been lifted from other sources (including the Unabomber, FFS - another complete fucknuts), there might be things he's said that I agree with (or not - I honestly don't know since I haven't read a single word), and I'm damn sure I'm not I'm not a cell. I've agreed with parts of Labour and Conservative manifestos and not voted for either because I disagreed with enough of both - a few thoughts in common does not a supporter make and more than agreeing with the sixth commandment makes one a Christian.
The other thought about Breivik (or is it Berhring Breivik? Anyone know?) is that with all this background about him coming out - mention of a privileged upbringing and being a mollycoddled mother's boy being just two that headline links that I didn't click - there's one missing and which I suspect will stay missing. We're not hearing anything from the ex-girlfriends, and I'm not holding my breath since a bloke who craves what might be called 'the tactical look' and likes to pose with a rifle with all sorts of torches and accessories and a bayonet attached probably didn't have one.
Paul · 713 weeks ago
Doesn't mean any of us (apart from an extreme, extreme, extreme minority) would consider opening fire on unarmed civilians in a rage to be right though. And anyone who does seriously consider that OK is best avoided.
thylacosmilus 62p · 713 weeks ago
But I did find the idea that he needed to be held incommunicado (in case he passed on 'coded messages' to his mythical cells) rather amusing, given that the authorities had released his 1500 page manifesto. What, they're absolutely certain there's no coded messages in that, are they?
If so, how?
Angry_Exile 90p · 713 weeks ago
Captain Ranty · 713 weeks ago
He is a smoker too. I expect the Righteous to seize on that at any time to push their cause.
A nasty business. I pray it is not repeated soon, but logic dictates that it will.
CR.
Angry_Exile 90p · 713 weeks ago
Tom · 713 weeks ago
Remember, the Scaninavians are Vikings. Being "intelligent" doesn't inoculate you from doing stupid things or thinking stupid thoughts - and that obviously applies to both sides. It's one of life's minor miracles in my view that there haven't been more unpleasant incidents in Scandinavia regarding immigration - I frankly expected Sweden to kick off before Norway.
As far as immigration goes the ruling parties have been trying to fit a quart into a pint pot and it is causing significant trouble out in the communities that are saddled with dealing with it - then, when they complain... they are told haughtily that they're racists . Do that enough times and you're going to create a constituency of pretty ticked off people who are going to take the law into their own hands - which has been happening at a low level, tamped down by an ostrich like media.
All this is set to run a while yet in an assortment of different forms. I just hope that it's not too late for issues to be resolved without more significant blood being spilt.
What a mess...
atangledweb1 22p · 713 weeks ago
You say you haven't looked at what he's written (and copied) and I quite understand that. But I *have* started reading his manifesto and your comment about occasional bits in it being logical or sensible is right. In much the same way as a stopped clock is right twice a day, its inevitable *some stuff* is going to make sense. Plenty of raving bollocks in there to pad out the majority of what I've read so far though.
Angry_Exile 90p · 713 weeks ago
Tom · 713 weeks ago
Simon Jenkins kind of nails it . The telling part - that I wasn't aware of was that reform of the Norwegian political system has been stalled since the report he alludes to was delivered (2004). It's the kind of analysis (the report) that restores my faith in people. It remains to be seen if the political parties can have their fingers prised off the subsidies and constipation of PR eased....hopefully moving the implementation of government moved away from ideology to practicality.
Good luck with that Norway.