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Thursday, 10 November 2011

I'm not one for retributive justice but...

I've argued against the death penalty here before and I'm sure I've said that I'm not even that fussed about prison as punishment. I like to think I'm a fairly practical kind of guy and the main thing I see society getting from prison is the lack of crimes committed by inmates while they're locked up. If they see it as a punishment or if they can be rehabilitated while they're in there, both with the aim of them not reoffending, then great. That's a bonus we should be grab if it's available but the main point for me is that someone who commits on average one crime per day at liberty will commit 365 fewer crimes if locked up for a year for just one of them - it's really that simple. Rehabilitation and retribution should be part of sentencing but the main thing for me is that a crim locked up is a holiday from his activities for everyone else.

However, now and then there are times when my principles really are pushed to breaking point, and today is one such day. I have just seen a story online at The Telegraph about some unknown person who swung a cat around by its tail for no apparent reason. Certainly cats will scratch and bite if provoked or frightened so I can't say for certain that the cat did nothing to hurt him, but I will say that it seems highly unlikely that catching a frightened or angry cat by the tail in the outdoors isn't easy. They're small, fast and agile, so when it's vet time for ours we have make sure they're inside and the doors and windows are closed before the cat baskets come out, which leads me to suspect that this was a probably a friendly cat who was enticed to come and say hello and had no idea that it was going to be cruelly tormented. There is video of it here for those who can stomach it - I needed a mental run up before I could watch it and won't be watching agin nor posting it here. I really don't recommend it unless you live in the Ramsgate area and think you might be able to help the police.

Needless to say the cat is now a bit fucked up.
Michelle Buchanan, who owns the cat, said her pet had been left mentally scarred by the incident.
"He's not physically injured but he is mentally. Ever since the incident happened, when he eventually came home, he's never gone back outside," she said.
I don't doubt it.
RSPCA Inspector Caroline Doe added: "This was a very violent, nasty attack on a cat.
"Anyone who witnessed this outside the pub must have been as shocked and appalled as we were.
"We are hoping that someone will recognise this man and come forward so we can investigate this fully."
For reasons documented on other blogs, the Ambush Predator for instance, I'm pretty ambivalent toward the RSPCA since they've assumed the role of animal police, but in this instance I'm on their side. The local police in Ramsgate are also investigating, and I do hope they catch the bastard.

But I hope for more than that. As I said early on in this post there are times when my position on retributive justice is strained, and typically it's the same kind of times most normal people look at something with the kind of shock and disgust I felt towards that fucking mutation in human form as he swung that cat around. Doesn't matter whether its casual cruelty toward a child, such as Baby Peter, or toward an animal, such as Mowgli here - and there's a stage where a young child has a lot in common with a cat or dog in terms of size, emotional development, trust and relative helplessness in the face of adult aggression, so anyone willing to torture a small animal is one to fucking watch because it seems a pretty small step from there to torturing a small person. They kind of thing prompts a pretty visceral response in all of us and so many people who read about this or see that video will naturally think that the cruelty shown towards Mowgli the cat deserves to be repaid in kind.

And so do I. I wouldn't want the kind of thing this sack of shit deserves actually made available to the judicial system as a criminal sanction for the same reason I oppose capital punishment even when I agree that someone deserves death - if it can be done to the deserving it can be done to the undeserving too. But I'm not going to sit here and say that the punishment that this humanity deficient defective can expect to receive if caught and convicted will fit the crime because it won't, and without the judicial system being turned into something that provides far more in the way of terror than justice it can't.

So instead I'll settle for hoping he gets caught and convicted as well as hoping against hope for some kind of karmic justice to provide a nasty, painful, debilitating and eventually terminal retribution. Face cancer starting with the eyes seems appropriate.

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Our medieval ancestors, I'm sure, enjoyed a certain grim satisfaction at the thought of a notorious local sinner getting his come-uppeance in the hereafter. The law might take its course, if it could, but there was a surer punishment waiting in the fire-and-brimstone department.

These days, with the emphasis on tolerance and forgiveness, that deterrent is obsolete and the law - as JuliaM documents all too often - is relatively toothless. Most of us manage the difference between right and wrong without the threat of retribution - divine or legal - but since there will always be some who lack that facility, something of the sort is necessary to curb their activities - and for the morale of the virtuous.

If you started a new sect tomorrow offering absolute certainty that people like the man in your video would fry in hell, I suspect you'd be trampled in the rush.
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If I started a new sect? ;)

Actually that's made me think about the big trouble with karma: if there is such a thing the little shite might not get what's coming to him in this life. Just as well I'm an atheist, so I'll stick to hoping he gets face cancer.
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Twenty_Rothmans · 698 weeks ago

Why is it that violence against an animal (which is presumably given to dishing a little out itself against birds, lizards and mice) considered more vile than that against - say - an OAP?

I am not disputing that the perpetrator should be punished harshly. But you and I both know that he won't be.
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Yes, it's a funny one that. As I said in the post it's cruelty (not violence per se) toward the relatively helpless that turns my gut, and whether it's a small animal or a child doesn't matter much to me. Cruelty to the elderly is just as vile as either of those and I'd have mentioned it if I'd thought of it right then. Too busy concentrating on getting a coherent post written despite the red mist - which I've failed to do on other occasions, Baby P being one.

No, he won't be punished as harshly as he deserves because I think that what he deserves is little short of fucking medieval, possibly involving a copper rod, a heat source and a personal orifice for starters and ending with being sawn slowly in half from the perineum. The problem is that the kind of justice system that would be able to sentence him to what he deserves is not one in which I would wish to live for fear of the state choosing to do it to those that don't deserve it. Being unable to square that circle I have to settle for scumbags who commit cruel acts simply because it please them to do so being prevented from doing so again by being locked away. That frequently they don't get locked away is a problem, and of course in an ideal world they'd also run the risk of armed citizens being free to defend themselves and the innocent. Unfortunately that's too frightening a thought for both governments and people hooked on statism.
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Twenty_Rothmans · 698 weeks ago

The only reason I mentioned an OAP is because they're (largely) unable to fight back. A good cat will.

If anyone did something to Mrs 20, he wouldn't be the one to worry. I am very much in favour of reprisals and he'd really have a hard time coming to terms with what I would to to his family. Not entirely fair, I'll grant you, but let's face it, you won't enjoy your limited time inside knowing that your family will need to look both ways before crossing the road.

The only person who'll throttle Mrs 20 will be me :-)
I'm a real cat lover, AE, so I couldn't bring myself to watch the video - I'd love to put a noose round that fucker's neck and swing him around the same way as he did to a poor defenceless animal. :@
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I'm a real cat lover, AE, so I couldn't bring myself to watch the video, however, I'd have absolutely no qualms about putting a noose round that fucker's neck and swinging him around just the same way as he did to that poor, defenceless animal. :@
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Twenty_Rothmans · 698 weeks ago

I love your name and I dig your site, but - what about the HUMANS?

How come everybody builds a pyre for some chav who belts a domesticated animal, yet we don't have the same outrage when a human is attacked?
Oh, we do. Especially if it's on film, which seems to be the defining factor (there are other cat cruelty stories which don't get half as much attention, because there are - thankfully - no pictures).
"...anyone willing to torture a small animal is one to fucking watch because it seems a pretty small step from there to torturing a small person. "

The FBI consider it - along with bedwetting and firestarting - one third of the 'homicidal indicators' in children.

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