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Wednesday, 29 September 2010

I wonder how this news is being taken.



Warn? So we can do precisely what about it? Sell any shares in Kodak? Or are the researchers warning of the implications as regards the solar and planetary magnetic fields? Who knows, The Tellytubbygraph doesn't say beyond noting that it's a sign of less activity of the kind that causes solar flares and "sun sports" (sic), which sounds like disastrous news for cricket fans and men who appreciate beach volleyball for its athletic content, honest.

So how do we look at this article? You could, if your mind works a certain way, choose to view this as a reminder of the massive influence that the fat end of two thousand trillion trillion tonnes of fusing hydrogen parked, in astronomical terms, almost on our doorstep inevitably must have on the Earth. On the other hand you could, if your mind works in a different way, be sitting there wondering if there's a way you could plausibly blame this on global warming. That warble gloaming is even automatically associated with this by Google Ads means I'm sure it's crossing a few minds.

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Cobbett's Ghost · 756 weeks ago

If you weren't aware of it : http://www.thecloudmystery.com/The_Cloud_Mystery/...

I note that a reference to sun/earth weather effect dropped into Brian Cox's BBC popsci epic "Wonders of the Universe" - completely unreferenced - an Argentinian chap measuring the water levels at the Iguazu falls - http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/n...

All rather contrary to what's jammed down our throats....

On a separate but mildly related matter - I read somewhere recently that Aussies aren't happy about their swollen green utility bills and there's a big rise in people not paying - as in something of a revolt - is this true - can you put any flesh on them bones?
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Cobbett's Ghost · 756 weeks ago

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Something odd going on with comments ... lost two... re-typing

Anyway ... re: Sun vs. Earth Climate

If you're unaware then you might find The Cloud Mystery a worthy watch - it's currently the subject of a CERN project - not that the fuckwits in meeja and warmists take note - except to screech denier stuff.
http://www.thecloudmystery.com/The_Cloud_Mystery/...

It's curious that Brian Cox's BBC popsci epic mini series "Wonders of the Universe" has a sequence where the sun's influence on rainfall at the Iguazu falls in Brazil / Argentina is featured but the gits at Al Habibi-See see fit to not mention it on the series web site and some digging is required to find Pablo Mauas's Paraná river level work:
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/n...

An aside - I read somewhere that Aussies are sitting on (i.e. not paaying) their swollen green utility bills in alarming numbers (well, alarming for the leccy companies and the gummint) - is there any truth in this? If there is - care to put some flesh on dem rumour bones?

The meterologists in the Telegraph article .... The Finnish Mererological Institute - I can vouch from recent detail experience with their forecasts that the stupid gits don't ebven bother to look out the window. Maybe they've a bunch of UK Met Office twats on secondment?
Not as far as I know.
Something odd going on with comments ... lost two... re-typing

Anyway ... re: Sun vs. Earth Climate

If you're unaware then you might find The Cloud Mystery a worthy watch - it's currently the subject of a CERN project - not that the fuckwits in meeja and warmists take note - except to screech denier stuff.
http://www.thecloudmystery.com/The_Cloud_Mystery/...

It's curious that Brian Cox's BBC popsci epic mini series "Wonders of the Universe" has a sequence where the sun's influence on rainfall at the Iguazu falls in Brazil / Argentina is featured but the gits at Al Habibi-See see fit to not mention it on the series web site and some digging is required to find Pablo Mauas's Paraná river level work:
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/n...

An aside - I read somewhere that Aussies are sitting on (i.e. not paaying) their swollen green utility bills in alarming numbers (well, alarming for the leccy companies and the gummint) - is there any truth in this? If there is - care to put some flesh on dem rumour bones?

The meterologists in the Telegraph article .... The Finnish Mererological Institute - I can vouch from recent detail experience with their forecasts that the stupid gits don't ebven bother to look out the window. Maybe they've a bunch of UK Met Office twats on secondment?
Something odd going on with comments ... lost two... re-typing

Anyway ... re: Sun vs. Earth Climate

If you're unaware then you might find The Cloud Mystery a worthy watch - it's currently the subject of a CERN project - not that the fuckwits in meeja and warmists take note - except to screech denier stuff.
http://www.thecloudmystery.com/The_Cloud_Mystery/...

It's curious that Brian Cox's BBC popsci epic mini series "Wonders of the Universe" has a sequence where the sun's influence on rainfall at the Iguazu falls in Brazil / Argentina is featured but the gits at Al Habibi-See see fit to not mention it on the series web site and some digging is required to find Pablo Mauas's Paraná river level work:
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/n...

An aside - I read somewhere that Aussies are sitting on (i.e. not paaying) their swollen green utility bills in alarming numbers (well, alarming for the leccy companies and the gummint) - is there any truth in this? If there is - care to put some flesh on dem rumour bones?

The meterologists in the Telegraph article .... The Finnish Mererological Institute - I can vouch from recent detail experience with their forecasts that the stupid gits don't ebven bother to look out the window. Maybe they've a bunch of UK Met Office twats on secondment?
Something odd going on with comments ... lost two... re-typing

Anyway ... re: Sun vs. Earth Climate

If you're unaware then you might find The Cloud Mystery a worthy watch - it's currently the subject of a CERN project - not that the fuckwits in meeja and warmists take note - except to screech denier stuff.
http://www.thecloudmystery.com/The_Cloud_Mystery/...

It's curious that Brian Cox's BBC popsci epic mini series "Wonders of the Universe" has a sequence where the sun's influence on rainfall at the Iguazu falls in Brazil / Argentina is featured but the gits at Al Habibi-See see fit to not mention it on the series web site and some digging is required to find Pablo Mauas's Paraná river level work:
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/n...

An aside - I read somewhere that Aussies are sitting on (i.e. not paaying) their swollen green utility bills in alarming numbers (well, alarming for the leccy companies and the gummint) - is there any truth in this? If there is - care to put some flesh on dem rumour bones?

The meterologists in the Telegraph article .... The Finnish Mererological Institute - I can vouch from recent detail experience with their forecasts that the stupid gits don't ebven bother to look out the window. Maybe they've a bunch of UK Met Office twats on secondment?
Arghhh!!! three tries at comments ...
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Three? Oh, bloody hell. I thought getting Debate In Tents was going to solve all my issues with comments. I'd better go look see if yours are in a moderation queue or something.
The effect of the nearest stear on Eath's climate in not something that sits well with the greenie gangs.

The Cloud Mystery Henrik Svenson http://www.thecloudmystery.com/The_Cloud_Mystery/...
- he published in 2006 and has been the butt of an awful lot of nasty warmist attacks ever since.

CERN however think there's something worth investigation and are on the case. http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Research/CLOU...

Al Habibi-See are doing their usual bias by omission - poor old Brian Cox's popsci eyecandy epic "Wonders of the Universe" "Empire of the Sun" episode featured a chat with an Argenntinian guy (Pablo Mauas) who'se got a very nice correlation between solar activity and water levels on the Paraná river / Iguazu falls - not that it's attributed anywhere - no siree

Bit of digging turns this up though. http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/n...

An aside - I read recently that Aussies are mildly revolting over their swollen green utility bills and aren'y paying up and that the amount of unpaid bills is getting the leccy co's and the politicos worried - any truth in this? if there is care to put a bit of flesh on dem rumour bones?
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Thanks for the link. I haven't seen the doco as it happens so I'll enjoy watching that, though I bought a copy of The Chilling Stars a few years ago so I was already aware of Svensmark's cosmic ray cloud seeding theory, the initial SKY experiment in the basement and the eventual CLOUD experiment at CERN.

Not aware of anything beyond grumbling about utility bills here in Oz, though in my tinfoil hat moments I'd be prepared to believe that vested interests woul want to avoid that becoming any kind of story in case it gains momentum. What I can tell you is that they are taking the piss a bit, all for green reasons, natch. We've got heaps of uranium they won't let us use for power and would rather we stopped exporting for money, but they're determined to punish the nation for burning coal instead. Meanwhile water bills here are going to double to pay for a desalination plant in Wonthaggi, the state government's solution to the drought which will come on line at the end of next year. Shame the fucking drought seems to have broken this year, which might make the desal plant an energy intensive $4 billion white elephant that needs to be paid for through everyone's water bills o.0 If you still have a link to where you read about revolts I'd be very interested.
Ha! drove me mildly battier than normal that - didn't save a copy... popped me a Blogger comment box with moderation tuened on at one point too. - ho-hum
Okay, fixed it. Apologies to both Cobbett's Ghost and/or Tom. By default or by accident the Debate In Tents settings treat comments with two or more links as potential spam and automatically places them in a queue for moderation. Link laden comment spam has been a minor issue here recently and since the Blogger system provides little in the way of tools to tackle it I'm currently inclined to leave it like this, at least for the time being. But I will put something to that effect on a post comment message if there is such a thing or on the comment submission bit below.
Again, sorry to both of you. I do understand the feeling as exactly the same thing happened to me recently thanks to Blogger's new and user unfriendly anti-spam filter. If it becomes a pest I'll turn it off completely and look at other solutions.
The delinquent utility payments article was about four or five weeks back. Understandably / they'd / want it sat on pronto.

In a similar vein I've a very fond memory of a bit of Italian civil disobedience see at the end: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=81166900...

Australian Uranium ? I recall shuffling through ankle deep oxide on the dockside at Darwin - wondered why they don't use it domestically.
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Because nukophobia is rampant here. If I had a dollar for every time I've said I support nuclear energy and someone's said, 'Ah, but would you want to live near a nuclear reactor,' I'd have... well, probably only about twelve dollars but still. I tell them they've asked the wrong question and say that they should really ask if I'd want to live near a nuclear reactor again, before explaining that I've lived within a couple of hours drive of a dozen or so reactors and for some years within a few miles of one of 'em, and that I'm not dead, mutated or glowing in the dark. The follow up is usually, 'Ah, but what about Chernobyl?' to which I reply that colossal fuck up though it was it didn't kill me last time despite fallout reaching as far as the British Isles, that it killed almost nobody between where I lived and Prypiat, that wildlife is flourishing in the quarantine zone now, that contemporary Western reactors were and are better designed (e.g. have a containment building) and finally that if talking nuclear to a Brit one could as well say 'What about Windscale?' Almost always the response is a puzzled look and the question 'What the fuck's Windscale?' - not recognising the name of the world's second biggest nuclear cock up makes me suspect most of my anti-nuke friends' opinions are formed by breathlessly doom-mongering news reports.

There's one non power producing reactor near Sydney which is used for research and producing medical isotopes, and presumably they feed it good old dinkum Aussie uranium instead of that nasty foreign stuff ;-) Needless to say the Green party wants it shut down.
I've never seen the Northern Lights, and I've always wanted to. Such a pity.

Incidentally, there are Southern Lights too. Are they similarly affected?
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Had to hijack your identity, Julia. For some reason your comments went into Blogger, which treated them as spam, rather than the new Debate In Tents system. Not sure why but I'll look into it.

Get yourself off on holiday to northern Canada or Scandinavia. Unless I'm mistaken it's always been pot luck as to whether they appear and how strongly but I expect if you wait long enough they'll turn up and put on some sort of show. Yes, there certainly are Southern Lights but I've never seen them. We're nowhere near far south enough and I doubt even the most southerly part of Tasmania would do. I saw the Northern Lights once from about 300-400km away from the Arctic Circle, so for the Southern Lights I'd guess you'd need to be on a ship in the Southern Ocean or on one of the remote islands in it. If any mainland is close enough I suppose it would have to be Tierra del Fuego or thereabouts, but I'm pretty certain that the same thing applies as with the Northern Lights and they're getting a bit shy as well.
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